Australian researchers cite #Fake news re: rising sea levels. ( Nonsense. .the science is 'Settled' now

kgwilson

Active Member
#21
When the earth received the energy from the sun, captured it over 4 billion years & stored it as coal and oil, then humanity discovered how to release that energy, it provided the path for human expansion, innovation and exploitation. While we have been using coal for thousands of years it wasn't till the industrial revolution that the pace ramped up. In 200 years we have simply taken most of that energy that took 4 billion years to accumulate and used it releasing all the waste and by-products into our atmosphere.

In that 200 years the worlds population has expanded from 1 billion to nearly 8 billion. It defies any form of logic that such a massive release of energy from within as well as the same amount coming from the source of all energy, the Sun, being received at the same time has had no effect on the earths climate. It took almost 200 years for humanity to even realise this and there are many who have a vested interest in denying it. The pace is accelerating and Governments still talk of "Growth" not sustainability. We are heading towards the tipping point where it will become irreversible. Of those alive today only the very young may be around to witness it. Humanity may survive but the cost will be complete apocalypse.
 

facthunter

Well-Known Member
#22
The effect you describe is true, but in addition gases like CO2 and methane in the atmosphere becoming more as a % than in the past traps heat so that Less escapes out through the atmosphere than comes in from the sun. "Greenhouse Effect". The earths Core also puts heat up to the surface as it always has so any reduction in what goes out causes the temperature to rise, Less clouds and snow means less reflection of heat also. Permafrost melting will release Methane so THAT may really get things going the wrong way at a great rate. The sea has been able to store CO2 but the acidification is now showing signs of affecting hard shelled animals/critters like plankton and coral. Nev
 

spacesailor

Well-Known Member
#23
"nah I like the hot weather cause them young women and their short skirts"
ME TOO !. Don't tell !.
57 year anniversary This month. What do I buy. After 56 it's getting hard to find something NOT bought before ?.
After all if it's not bought already, I can't afford it.
If I can afford it It's not wanted, hence not bought before !.
Not for the Home or garden, Not jewelry. (got too much) not ornaments (dust collectors) Not animals ( Lady cleans up after them,& I want ALL the petting).
HELP

"In that 200 years the worlds population has expanded from 1 billion to nearly 8 billion."
Then we WILL be eating "soylent-green" from that, OLD1953 "Quatermass experiments". (just a note( " the project wasn't abandoned, 6 episodes were made and aired, but the BBC lost/recycled the last 4 episodes so no recordings of them exist anymore)). "typical."
There was NO "soy" in the food made to feed Billions of people. I don't know if this episode (with Soylent-green) is one that survived./

spacesailor
 

spacesailor

Well-Known Member
#25
NO rain.
In Spain.
Is there any-where, An automated dusting appliance for getting rid of the Red dust settling over Australia AND new-Zealand.
I could buy a Third world country maid, at a reasonable price ?.
spacesailor
 

Marty_d

Well-Known Member
#26
NO rain.
In Spain.
Is there any-where, An automated dusting appliance for getting rid of the Red dust settling over Australia AND new-Zealand.
I could buy a Third world country maid, at a reasonable price ?.
spacesailor
You're just thinking of those short skirts again.
 
#29
just to make your day phill looks like there is some explaining to do from BOM aust making the weather a few years ago cooler so as it is warmer now than years ago so as them lying climate experts are correct
should be good on the explanation how 30 years ago it got colder all of a sudden owing to new adjustments
oh sheeeet that's right spec savers wernt around neil
 

Bruce

Well-Known Member
#30
Hottest time ever in Darwin, but it was only noticed by the population when they got their electricity bills.
They had been using their air-conditioners a lot more, so they didn't feel the heat. Their first reaction was to blame the evil supply company, but this is actually the government in the NT and prices had not actually gone up much.
 

Bruce

Well-Known Member
#31
There was a great job going in Darwin last year... you went around to see people who had difficulty paying their power bills, and explained things to them like how leaving the airconditioner on all day when you were at work actually cost money, even if it did give you a nice cool house to come home to. Apparently this type of information was met with disbelief a lot of the time.
Electricity bill deniers? What a good idea say I.
 

spacesailor

Well-Known Member
#32
"had not actually gone up much."
How Big a solar (standalone) system to power a 3kw AC for that 8 hours a day .?.
Just thinking about it for future reference,
AND were is the RAIN, as I need to "see my water diverters in action. closed.jpg open.jpg newy-hose2flowers03.jpg tapped04.jpg The-newy05.jpg
The New05 is to show I had to adapt it by cutting a bit of the top-down-pipe, to use as an insert,top d-pipe fits inside of bottom d-pipi, so doesn't fit the plastic diverter.
 

spacesailor

Well-Known Member
#34
Sorry for not being clear of what I asked for .
How many panels,
what physical size, on that roof of mine.
One day I Will measure the good sunny side of the roof, Or should I count the tiles.
Nomadpete, have you a battery back-up, or something different
The new panels are (seem) an odd size, Voltage wise.
Or is it me working that old 12/24/36, & 72, volts battery sizing,?
.
spacesailor
 
#36
16x1200x1800 panels run aircon 10 hrs day plus fridge plus water cooler plus computer and last year paid no bills and ended up with 1500 bucks thinking of adding 4 more panels now that I have upgrade my inverter(las one 4.2klw died new one 5.2 and it was still under warranty
 

facthunter

Well-Known Member
#37
The latest panels are more efficient but mine was 22 panels for 4.15 Kw about 8 years ago. Might even be longer. Today you can get that performance with inverter all for about $5,000. installed and running. Nev
 

nomadpete

Well-Known Member
#38
Space, Don't concern yourself with details of panel voltage. Presently panels are often around 70volts each, and wired in series to give around 400volts under load. This goes into the inverter, which produces 240 volts AC.
My system is grid connected. So, when the sun shines, it effectively supplies the air-conditioning, and I draw nothing from the mains.

However, I believe there are new inverters that support battery storage, and automatically switch to battery (giving 240v to the house) at night until it gets low, then switches back to mains (if necessary).
 

spacesailor

Well-Known Member
#39
Nomadpete.
Thanks.
OOPs. THANKS TO ALL,
I thought that the new panels were a little OFF.
They could ( I think) be 72 volts, like the small fork-trucks batteries, I was offered a second hand 72volt battery for a grand, but as I've only three 80 watt 12 volt panels, I declined.
( The thought being cutting that battery into six, 12 volt, segments, ( Big AMP HOUR, with a 12 volt inverter)).
These batteries usually have at least one DEAD cell, so a little bit of the battery is useless, even so four banks of 12 volts is still heaps bigger than anything I could afford "Off the shelf".
All cost money, so I just play with powering a "fan, water fountain feature", and whatever small power tools I can get away with by Solar POWER.
spacesailor.
IT RAINED today I counted seventeen drops. LoL
 
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