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old man emu

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Are Young People more aware of their place in the environment because they have had environmental awareness impressed on them from pre-school onwards?

Just think what you would produce if kids were instructed in environmental awareness and Aboriginal spiritual philosophy.
 

Bruce

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OME, you got me to look up Aboriginal philosophy, and I am impressed. The idea that we are the land and through the land, everything is interconnected, is actually scientifically correct. Just consider the atoms that we are made of to see this. Wow.
But just to be a grumpy old man, I have to say that their idea of caring for the land should have included picking up rubbish.
 

Bruce

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Yep OME, that rubbish sure wasn't part of the world of the aborigines dreamtime. But they bought it ( with whitefellers money ) and dropped it where it offends the eye of other whitefellers like me. Of course, their traditional way of hunter-gathering was disrupted when the whitefellers took their land for cattle stations.
There is a photo from the 1920's which haunts me to this day.. a group of whip-lean aboriginal young men in chains, about to be marched from Alice Springs to Port Augusta ( the nearest court) for cattle stealing. I have tried to find out more but haven't succeeded.
 

willedoo

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It's always difficult when we try to compare the way Aboriginals live to the way we live. They had a virtual mono culture for many thousands of years and in that time, the only rubbish they produced was organic matter or stone chips. There was no need to pick their rubbish up as it was all part of the natural environment. So not picking up rubbish is virtually in their dna, and I think old habits die hard.

As a person of European heritage, it's hard to get the head around their different concept of hygiene and sanitation. When I worked in WA in the early 80's, whenever you wanted to find out where the station people were when they were mustering, you got up on a high sand dune and looked for the cloud of crows circling off in the distance. That pointed out a bronco yard where the Aboriginals were camped.

They'd spend three or four days camped at a set of yards, working the cattle before moving on to the next set of yards. They wouldn't take any food with them, just rifles, and shoot a beast for tucker at each set of yards. They'd sleep fairly close to the dead beast beside the yards, and just hack off a steak and cook it when needed. They wouldn't gut the beast or anything, and in the heat, the carcass would get a bit dodgy after a couple of days. The crows were always hooking into the beast as well, hence the always present tell tale cloud of crows circling above their camp.

Not my idea of hygienic food storage, but to them it was perfectly normal, just like not picking up rubbish. They never got crook because the meat was usually well cooked.
 

Bruce

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In suburban Alice Springs, this carpet contractor I knew was asked to quote for a new carpet in the living room of an aboriginal tenanted house. There was a blood-soaked area 2m by 1m in the middle of the floor where they had butchered a kangaroo.
Too primitive for carpets, we thought. So did this group we knew who tendered for "appropriate first dwellings " at a settlement well outside the town boundaries. The tender group consisted of an architect, a building supplies shop manager and an aboriginal elder. It was rejected by Canberra as " racist"... yep, no carpets.
 

old man emu

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Let's not point the finger of Shame only at our indigenous countrymen. Have you ever walked into a house and almost retched because the air is so stale because the windows have corroded shut years ago?
What about entering a block of flats occupied by Asian or Indian workers? Five minutes there and you come out smelling like the main course of a festival feast. And our Middle Eastern friends are well known for butchering goats and sheep at home.
 

Bruce

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If you could see my bike, you would know that I am not a racist. My top speed is less than the peleton cruises at.
Getting back to housing, I wish we could see more cheaper housing for all those in need and not just aborigines. The alternative for some is the street and I hate seeing them do that. Surely we can do better as a society, and I don't care if the homeless are deserving or not, I don't want to see them outside in the cold.
OME, are aborigines in your area exempt from the backyard fire regulations? They are in Alice Springs.
Here's another thing which annoys me... Aborigines are allowed to kill wild animals, even those prohibited to the rest of us. I would agree with this "traditional hunting" if they used traditional weapons. Alas, they actually use whitefeller rifles.
 

old man emu

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The Dharawhal people of my area have been in contact with Europeans since Capt. Cook's arrival. They were the mob who stood on the shores of what the Europeans named "Botany Bay" and told Cook and his mates to F... Off! They didn't care for boat people.

Eighteen years later they investigated these ghost people who arrived on floating islands. Once their curiosity was satisfied, they generally ignored the Europeans. That was between 1788 and about 1790. Then they worked out that these white people were not going to go away, so the Dharawhal, after a few conflicts, took the attitude, "If you can't beat them, join them". They obviously tended to mix socially with the poor whites, and from them learned the rural skills that would get them work when food sources failed due to climatic incidents. There are records of many individual Aborigines being of great service to explorers, but the expressions of appreciation generally came as a result of the service the Aborigine provided, not from social interactions between the Aborigine and the Upper Class. Grave of Yuranigh - Wikipedia

The local Aboriginal clans around Camden Airport are the Cabrogal, Muringong and Norongerragal. Members of these clans only light backyard fires in their Webers.
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spacesailor

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Ho !,
Seems my area is there. OME.
Don't see many of them, But they can claim the land under my house.
I pay rates to parramatta, If they claim the land I bought, can I stop paying the white fellas in Parramatta.
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red750

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I see where Donald tweeted that Rex Tillerson was "as dumb as a rock" and didn't do as he was told. Different to his earlier tweet in which he said he was terrific and a good person to work with. Tillerson replied that Donald doesn't read reports and briefings, ignores his advisers and acts on what he believes is the thing to do. A real loose cannon. Another senior White House official is about to quit, too. Don't remember who.
 

kgwilson

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The Aboriginal culture has developed over 40 to 60 thousand years. Europeans come along, kill of as many as possible, steal their land and tell them to assimilate and integrate. We told them to change their culture but wouldn't modify ours. Where does the problem lie?
 

Old Koreelah

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The Aboriginal culture has developed over 40 to 60 thousand years. Europeans come along, kill of as many as possible, steal their land and tell them to assimilate and integrate. We told them to change their culture but wouldn't modify ours. Where does the problem lie?
White fellas could benefit from adopting some aspects of Aboriginal culture.
In a non-indig. community there will be hell to pay if you intervene when a neighbour's kids are neglected or misbehaving.
Visit an indigenous community and kids will be playing free; every mother will take responsibility for them and provide a boot up the bum if they go off the rails. Kids wth slack parents know there is always an Auntie with a feed and a hug on offer.
 
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Marty_d

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I see where Donald tweeted that Rex Tillerson was "as dumb as a rock" and didn't do as he was told. Different to his earlier tweet in which he said he was terrific and a good person to work with. Tillerson replied that Donald doesn't read reports and briefings, ignores his advisers and acts on what he believes is the thing to do. A real loose cannon. Another senior White House official is about to quit, too. Don't remember who.
Wasn't it Tillerson who said Trump was a "f*cking moron"?

(Well, Tillerson and everyone else, but someone senior is said to have used those words.)
 
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